tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post1583893931388463620..comments2023-12-26T04:02:42.551-08:00Comments on THE SPICE ISLAND ATHEIST: Nothing Atheist About “Real” Black Atheists Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02936527748350587828noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-67067362637045462612014-05-25T14:17:57.608-07:002014-05-25T14:17:57.608-07:00It appears the bahamian brother hurdled one of the...It appears the bahamian brother hurdled one of the most.important aspect of ankh's premise...that being the reverence for nature as"god".How could he have missed that...or perhaps it was deliberate obfuscation ...if so then his entire premise is faulty and can easily be dismissed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17687511171587336771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-37726207835085109632014-05-06T19:12:56.633-07:002014-05-06T19:12:56.633-07:00THIS! You hit the nail on the head!THIS! You hit the nail on the head!Negrodamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13203627399128673576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-71624828280868482892014-05-06T18:54:46.309-07:002014-05-06T18:54:46.309-07:00Awesome read! I found that when I finally accepte...Awesome read! I found that when I finally accepted being an atheist, it was hard to find community. I sought it online and found myself surrounded by "Black Atheist" groups which seemed instead to be practitioners of traditional African religions and of course, not atheist at all. I understand the explanation handed forth by the The Real Black Atheist Group but I find it as problematic as the collective Black Christian Church in America. To me, it espouses a theology which allows no further expansion and adoption of worldviews and tends to be as sexist and homophobic as Western religions. Also, my rejection of Christianity did not stir a desire in me to co-opt a culture. I believe that we have to create one that is relevant. In short, I loved this piece. It was far more articulate than I am right now lol.Negrodamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13203627399128673576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-49458988438857886842014-04-25T02:11:38.989-07:002014-04-25T02:11:38.989-07:00Either Atheism is defined by a historical point in...Either Atheism is defined by a historical point in history where one cultural group rejected another's superstitions or Atheism means rejection of superstitious authority. I think the former is limiting. I also think there is a romanticized notion of pre-colonial african culture and greco roman culture. However, greco-roman culture is revered because their decendents subjugated everyone else. That's how the world works. Accordingly, each culture has strengths and weaknesses. Whenever I hear an ancient culture lauded without critique (especially one that we only know of because of anthopology rather than generational experiential consistency), I realize I'm dealing with a "romanticist." In my view, this is why science, logic, reason and objectivity are more important than race. Race, as a social construct, is a limited way to find truth.<br /><br />That said, I agree that many Atheist groups are highly left leaning and almost equate the acceptance of homosexuality with being an atheist. The two issues should be mutually exclusive and the rejection of a sexual behavior should not automatically rule as a "phobia."<br /><br />The acceptance of the positive aspects of black history does not mean that history holds answers to modern day problems. <br /><br />I find that many people in the religious, social construct debates have too many egos and emotional biases that prevent real solutions forming and/or enlightenment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-35824857846975275472013-08-24T15:35:46.065-07:002013-08-24T15:35:46.065-07:00Here's my response:
http://goo.gl/rRt8n6Here's my response:<br />http://goo.gl/rRt8n6birdmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07374709744094292025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-4070961336676131502013-08-24T15:12:59.012-07:002013-08-24T15:12:59.012-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.birdmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07374709744094292025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-2802419175136295922013-07-23T17:56:45.072-07:002013-07-23T17:56:45.072-07:00Good argument gentleman, I have to say you both ma...Good argument gentleman, I have to say you both make good points. But, I have to agree with The Real Black Atheist on this one point. Time has proven that most of humanity does not want to see Africans come up so to speak, and it seems to be in our best interest as Africans to unite somehow, first, in order to be recognized as a people with substance if only in numbers by the eletist powers governing the globe now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-35756102017107298882013-07-05T08:52:29.716-07:002013-07-05T08:52:29.716-07:00"I do not hate humanity or a fraction of it, ..."I do not hate humanity or a fraction of it, to the point of xenophobia, walling of myself in closed enclaves". [End Quote]<br /><br />To begin with, it seems you're suggesting that Real Black Atheism is a tight knit inclusive group rather than exclusive like the other liberal free-for-all Black Atheist groups who are too open in my opionion...and willing to accept anybody and everyone without any discernment.<br /><br />Nevertheless, what you unwittingly refer to as Xenophobia is actually justifiable rational discrimination on the part of Real Black Atheist. To me, Mr. Sion Lewis, it's you who's being discriminatory toward Real Black Atheist because you promote and reinforce the false values of collectivism. You unwittingly believe or rather WISH that membership in a group is more important than individual characteristics, actions or those who hold in high regard the time honored; but, fail safe aspects of Singleculturalism.<br /><br />The problem with many modern day Atheist...especially pro abortionist, Hershey Highway riding, interracial mixing Black Atheist groups is that they fight for everything else on the clipboard instead of fighting for Real Black Atheism.Lil Atheosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-12997455239737635262013-07-04T05:15:59.838-07:002013-07-04T05:15:59.838-07:00@ Atheos, this is not the context of my comment. I...@ Atheos, this is not the context of my comment. I was responding to the Realblackatheist comment that says "all of humanity is not interested in helping you or your people." Certainly, I am not naive, I agree with this comment. However, I was saying that I am not really concern about that. The point being, this truth will not lead me to hate humanity or a fraction of it, to the point of xenophobia, walling of myself in closed enclaves. Instead of running away from the issue, or returning hatred in kind, working to build a more humanist society is the goal to a better world. No, I am not talking about building a utopia, even thought this is desirable goal by many. I don't know if this is attainable. However, a more peaceful, humanist society where human rights are respected is indeed attainable. Despite what you think, I am interested in what brother Ankh and the Realblackatheist have to say. However, as the article points out, I disagree with some of his and the Realblackatheist understanding of Atheism. Those things certainly do not make me "self righteous." This charge I believe is misplace. It seems to be rooted in emotion. Also misplace is the charge of the article being bias. I doubt you read the article. There are many things I agreed on with the Realblackatheist has to say. And one more thing, if my position to see humanity as "one" and the promotion of the respect of human rights make me a "self righteous pluralist", then so be it. In fact, I stand even for Brother Ankh and the Realblackatheist to have the rights to their views once they are not encroaching on the my or the human rights of others. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936527748350587828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-11965021572758112082013-07-03T16:33:04.650-07:002013-07-03T16:33:04.650-07:00"I am not interested in what you think all of..."I am not interested in what you think all of humanity wants". [End Quote]<br /><br />Really? Wow! I want everyone to read this biased article from this self righteous Pluralist; but, when it comes to Real Black Atheism he gets uppity and/or bent out of shape. If you're not interested in what Brother Ankh has to say; then, no you certainly aren't interested in what ALL of humanity has to say when you make it your duty to ignore what one human says.Lil Atheosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-70947056669964962832013-05-03T05:25:24.099-07:002013-05-03T05:25:24.099-07:00I am not interested in what you think all of human...I am not interested in what you think all of humanity wants. As part of the human family, I am interested in human rights, and doing my part to ensure that all humans, not just me and my kind, enjoy the rights to happiness. Just because there are prejudice out there means that I should be likewise. I am only in control of my own action. And being a humanitarian (Humanist) does not make me less concern about black concerns than you. Moreover, I think you miss the point of my piece. History is certainly happening, but the evils of society and the problems black people faces have change, thus, the response has to change and develop to be effective. You are right, we have to learn from the past, but not hold on to it, but use it as a guide to inform our future. Walling out ourselves in enclaves that feed on xenophobic behavior is not a solution. Also, I would like you to enlighten me on the reason Africans called someone or something god. Man indeed predates god. I agree. Thus, however, does not mean that I have to accept any human being - African or otherwise - as a god. Allow me to ask this questions.. Is the African word god carries with it divinity? Are every Africans gods or is it an identification just for the political elites?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936527748350587828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-55435357226540536282013-05-02T20:26:57.546-07:002013-05-02T20:26:57.546-07:00Damn you spit fire on us ,i might have to make you...Damn you spit fire on us ,i might have to make you famous.first of all ,all of humanity is not interested in helping you or your people. You must help yourself as well as your family . first point, no such thing as stuck in the past because all history is still happening .He who controls the past control the present,he who control the present ,controls the future .the past is the only place one can learn from.one can't learn from the present because it is still happening and one can't learn from future because its not here yet. There's only one place to learn from and that`s the PAST. So who really stuck.RealblackAtheist.RealblackAtheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12162170552978629601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-45635074492556457232013-05-02T20:04:16.779-07:002013-05-02T20:04:16.779-07:00interesting ,read .lets get to the real point if o...interesting ,read .lets get to the real point if one does not understand why the african calls someone or something god one will never understand why they made god up in the first place .Man predates god .Co. Founder of the RealblackAtheist.RealblackAtheisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12162170552978629601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-45319599667461429062013-05-02T14:26:49.036-07:002013-05-02T14:26:49.036-07:00Wow, for such a lengthy article it would have carr...Wow, for such a lengthy article it would have carried more weight if you really watched the video's. As the producer all it seemed that you accomplished was to side with the typical arguments of the past. The host Ankhkakek never said the things you knock The Real Black Atheist for. I challenge you to put forth a real argument and I will have him respond to your obvious confusion. <br />blackatheistofatlanta@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-47993566380675260322013-04-30T05:16:21.162-07:002013-04-30T05:16:21.162-07:00You are welcome, and thanks for supporting. I am h...You are welcome, and thanks for supporting. I am happy that I can contribute something that can provoke us to think rationally and can move us to better serve ourselves, our family, our community and the world.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02936527748350587828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1643214750987392442.post-36485287711334033032013-04-29T19:52:48.909-07:002013-04-29T19:52:48.909-07:00Really good read. Thank you.Really good read. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com